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How A Serial Killer Helped Me Find My Husband (true story)

May 11, 2012 By: Stephanie1 Comment

 

My husband, Eddie, and I were high school sweethearts. This is our story. It’s not as interesting as my title makes it sound, although it does involve a real-life serial killer.

Today is the 12 year anniversary of the day that Eddie and I started dating. The real-time. We also “dated” for two weeks at the beginning of our freshman year of high school, which basically just consisted of talking on the phone occasionally. He broke up with me after the first week, then we got back together, then I broke up with him the next week. It was lame. So is the rest of this story, but I’ll share it anyway.

I avoided him as well as I could after that because, honestly, I thought he was kind of annoying. (Sorry, honey.) Besides he was popular and had a lot of other options and I did ok for myself. We each dated other people, but we were forced to spend a lot of time together because it was a small school and we had almost all of our classes together and were involved in many of the same extracurricular activities.

Towards the end of our sophomore year in March of 2000, serial killer Joe Palczynski went on a killing spree in the suburbs of Baltimore, which happened to be just a few minutes from where we went to school. It was kind of scary and while he was on the loose we all had to be on lockdown after classes until our parents came to pick us up. While on lockdown we just sat around the cafeteria doing homework and talking to our friends. I was talking to Lauren (the same Lauren with who we just went to the tea party) and the conversation went something like this…

“I think Eddie likes me again, but he kind of gets on my nerves.”

“You are so full of yourself, he does NOT like you like that.” (best friends keep it real)

“I really think he does.”

“No, he doesn’t. Seriously. Get over it. Wait. He IS looking at you. Is he throwing candy?”

And then I got pelted with a bunch of Shocktarts. (I wonder why I thought he was annoying?)

“Oh my gawd. He totally does like you.” (When you are 15 and a boy throws candy at you it is a pretty obvious declaration of love.)

“See. I told you.”

(If you expected a well-written Romeo & Juliet full-blown love story with intriguing dialogue just stop reading now, ‘cuz this ain’t it.)

Also, Mr. Naunton had moved our seats in world history class so Eddie, Lauren, our friend Phil, and I sat at a table by ourselves because there weren’t enough desks for everyone. In reality, I’m sure he did this because we were pretty good kids and he figured we wouldn’t be too disruptive, but at the time I thought that he & Eddie were conspiring against me because he was Eddie’s baseball coach and probably knew he liked me and wanted to put us in a situation where I couldn’t avoid him. Besides, I had a huge crush on Phil, and Lauren kind of liked Eddie and it was pretty awkward.

So every day Eddie would try to flirt with me, Lauren would try to flirt with him, and I would try to flirt with Phil, Phil was either completely oblivious this was happening, didn’t like me, or maybe knew Eddie did like me and didn’t want to block his friend. It was a teenage love square. Then Phil got a new girlfriend. We also learned about Ancient Egypt and stuff.

Plus, while we were on a field trip for our french class my friend Nicki told me Eddie had admitted to her he liked me. It wasn’t exactly a secret. 

In May of every year, our school did something called Olympic Day, which is basically field day. You signed up for a team, played games and sports, and they turned it into a kind of competition. I had signed up to be on a team with my girlfriends, most of us being the nerdy, non-sports-loving variety, and much to my dismay Eddie had signed up to be on our team too. He was popular and athletic, so this was the last team he normally would have been on.

I had to spend all day embarrassing myself playing sports I wasn’t any good at in front of a boy I had no interest in who wouldn’t leave me alone. Meanwhile, several of the girls on our team did have an interest in him and were busy flirting with him the whole time.

During the awards ceremony, he sat next to me and my friend Nancy sat on the other side of him. They spent the whole time talking about me as if I couldn’t hear them.

“Do you think she’d go out with me?”

“Oh she’ll totally go out with you. Here’s her number.” (Nancy, I’m going to KILL you. )

After school, I was really mad at Nancy.

“How could you do that to me? Are you serious? I don’t want to date him. I already did and it was dumb.” 

“Why not? It’s Eddie. Everybody loves him. Besides, I already told him you’d say yes. He’s calling you tonight. Just date him for a week. It’ll make you really popular. You can always break up later. Don’t hurt his feelings.” 

Apparently, not all peer pressure is bad. I didn’t really care if it would make me popular (and it didn’t) but I didn’t want to hurt his feelings. I wasn’t worried about hurting my friends’ feelings either because, honestly, since just about every one of us had a crush on him at some point, we had a running deal to let him make up his own mind, and whichever one of us he decided he liked could date him. 

He did call me that night. He rambled for about an hour before he finally asked me. I told him yes as long as it was different than the last time. (Writing this is making me realize I was a total brat.)

That was May 11, 2000. Twelve years ago today.

It didn’t take me long to fall head over heels in love with him. I knew at 15 that his strong faith, determined work ethic, patience, and great communication skills would make a wonderful husband and father, and I was right.

I’m sure I practiced writing Stephanie Giese in my boy book (a separate book I used for writing about boys because they were taking up too much valuable space in my real diary) and now I get to sign my name that way for real. 🙂

  

 

 

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So…I read the smut books

May 7, 2012 By: Stephanie1 Comment

Unless you live under a rock, you have probably been hearing about the 50 Shades of Grey trilogy everywhere the past few weeks. Apparently there’s a movie deal now and they were recently released in print. It’s topping the best seller lists and it’s being banned from a few libraries. Whenever I hear a book is being banned from libraries I cringe inside and then I have to read it. I hate the idea of being told what I can and cannot read. It just seems so very un-American. Can’t they just put a rating or a warning label on it like a cd or a movie?

There seemed to be very polarizing reviews, people either loved it or hated it. So I wanted to read the books and make up my own mind.(warning: spoilers and graphic language ahead)

I have to say I didn’t think the first book was that great. Actually I thought it was pretty awful. It reminded me a lot of Twilight and at the time I didn’t even know it had started out as Twilight fan fiction. I actually said to my husband, “Apparently all you have to do to write a popular series is create an awkward brunette heroine who falls for a guy who is no good for her. This is just like Twilight without the supernatural stuff and with a lot of sex.”

And there was a lot of sex. To the point that I got bored and stared skipping the sex scenes. Not because I’m a prude, but because they just got really repetitive and I didn’t find them nearly as shocking as they were advertised to be. Maybe it’s my age and a generation gap with other readers, but it is not shocking to me that these things exist and it doesn’t bother me if people want to use sex toys in consensual, monogamous, adult relationships, which is exactly what happens in the books. (Though it’s a different story when people want to advertise those kinds of toys on the bulletin board at my kids’ preschool, right Michele?) I did find it mildly educational at times because I am not at all familiar with the world of S&M. Oh that’s how people use those things…It sort of takes you back to being a teenager and discretely reading Cosmo articles that make you blush. 

There was pretty much no plot whatsoever in the first book (Girl meets boy, finds out boy is freaky, they get freaky together, then they do it again, and again, and again, the end.) which was the reason I kept reading and started the second book. I was curious how in the world this could possibly be a trilogy.  

A lot of people are criticizing the poor writing. I didn’t think it was that bad. I thought the character development was surprisingly good for what I expected of the genre (this being my first and probably only glimpse into the world of erotica) and each book got progressively better in terms of a plot line. I actually enjoyed the last book (which, incidentally, had the least sex) I thought the email conversations were really cute. It did get annoying that it often seemed like the author wrote with a thesaurus on her lap, throwing around words nobody ever uses, although her vocabulary was completely lacking for words to describe genitalia. Seriously. No one calls it “my sex.” 

Also, at first the whole inner goddess vs. subconscious thing was totally annoying, but then I got used to it.  

Some people are upset that this book puts women in a subservient position. Those people didn’t read the books. Ana is a strong female character and never allows herself to be put in that position, except during sex and it’s 100% consensual. Also not all the “doms” are men. I appreciated that she had the cojones to leave (so very un-Bella Swan of her) although I thought the context of her leaving was just plain stupid. I want you to spank me. Wait? I can’t believe you just did that. That hurt. I’m leaving you.

Some people are upset because it’s basically mainstream pornography. Not gonna lie. It totally is. Except it’s in your imagination (at least until the movie comes out) I don’t know if that makes it any different. I feel kind of guilty that I read it. It was very very very dirty and you should not under any circumstances let anyone under the age of 18 anywhere near these books. I wanted to ask my friends if they read it, but I was too embarrassed that I had read it in the first place to ask them and I don’t know that I would go recommending it to anyone. (So instead I’ll blog about it so the whole world knows.)

I have heard that a lot of women are reading it with their husbands and apparently it’s beneficial to their relationship. I did ask Eddie if it bothered him that I wanted to read it and he didn’t care. If he didn’t want me to read it I would have respected that.

I actually found it very intriguing that Ana was able to find a balance between being submissive, but not “a submissive,”  to her husband (they get married eventually) and being an assertive modern woman. I think that’s a theme that speaks to many married woman, myself included, although most of us live out this struggle internally and not in the “red room of pain.” I guess that’s why it’s being dubbed “Mommy porn.”

The real reason, as weird as it sounds, that I wanted to finish the series is that the more I found out about Christian the more he reminded me of my worst fears for my son and I very much appreciated that Ana was able to bring him out of that dark place and be a light for him. As the series progressed, I read it relating more to Grace, Christian’s adoptive mom, than to Ana.

Although Nicholas did not suffer the abuse in early childhood that Christian did, their beginning of life and subsequent attachment issues are very similar. Every time Nicholas is violent towards me or his sister (something we are really striving to work on these days) I pray for the women he will date and the woman he will marry. I hope she is like Ana.  It was refreshing to have a female character who could believably balance unconditional love while simultaneously sticking up for her “hard limits.”

I like a happy ending (no pun  intended) so my favorite part of the whole thing was the epilogue. That being said, had I been the writer I probably would have offed at least one of the characters, probably Ray after the accident. As it stands, that accident didn’t really seem to serve much of a purpose. I was assuming it was connected to the rest of the car chasing/kidnapping plot, but it wasn’t. I guess  it was supposed to teach Ana the fragility of life, but I think that would’ve been better accomplished if he had died. Whatever, I’m not sure the author even put that much thought into it.

So, to sum up, basically, my opinion is the fist book is total smut but necessary for context, the second book gets better, and the third book is pretty good, albeit completely predictable. 

So, are you willing to admit you read it? Thoughts if you did?

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Turning Three with Tea and AG

April 29, 2012 By: Stephanie1 Comment

Remember when I told you I don’t believe in extravagant birthday parties for kids? It’s time for me to eat my words, but it’s ok because they were delicious. They came in the form of scones, french tea, caviar, and gold leaf on decadent desserts.

In my defense, it was all their idea idea. 

 I can’t resist both of them. The one on the right is my best friend from childhood, Lauren. We’ve been friends for over 20 years. Now Lauren is a successful business woman in D.C. and we’re very proud of her. She’s Abby’s godmother and she wanted to do something special for Abby’s birthday and I wasn’t about to stop her.

 So Lauren made reservations and treated us to a real-life tea party at the Ritz Carlton! Oh, la la.

We had finger sandwiches (Abby’s were peanut butter & jelly and ham & cheese)

 and individual tea selections (Abby got her own tea pot and cup with apple juice)

 and a 3 tier tray of desserts to share, plus Abby got her own small plate and a “birthday cake” that was really a giant pile of whipped cream and strawberries.

 She was loving it

 They had a piano man who played Happy Birthday, You Are My Sunshine, and Once Upon a Dream just for her. She repayed him by dancing and twirling next to the piano.

 At first we were worried that we had made a bad choice and it wasn’t going to be an appropriate place for her, but she was very well-mannered for the most part and a few ladies even came over from other tables to compliment her behavior. 

The staff was great with her. They gave her a stuffed lion, their mascot, dressed up like a princess and were very patient and accommodating. They seemed genuinely excited to have a little girl come to their afternoon tea. 

 Then we headed over to the American Girl store in Tysons Corner, VA

 As you would probably expect, Abby wanted everything she laid eyes on.

I am a big fan of American Girl. At one point I had the entire historical collection, but then they just kept adding more dolls and I couldn’t keep up. I passed down my Molly doll to Abby a few days ago and the plan had been that we would bring Molly on our trip and she would come to our tea party and Abby could pick out a new outfit for her. (That’s why I love these dolls. Molly is about 20 years old and is still perfectly playable except her limbs could could probably use a once-over with the magic eraser.)

We looked all around at the accessories and even found some that reminded us of our fancy tea party.

I’d been saving up for the Ruthie doll (the brunette) to have as a keepsake to remind me of my Mommom. I was very close to her and she passed away a few years ago. Her name was also Ruth, and the Ruthie doll is from the Great Depression era, which makes her the same age as my Mommom. Plus she comes in a purple dress, which was Mommom’s favorite color.

Except we forgot to bring Molly. Oops. Once we got there I knew there was no way I could bring a three year old into a doll store and buy a doll for myself but not her and then not let her play with it. I could almost hear Mommom’s voice in my head. I knew exactly what she would have said about that. “Oh (and then she’d wave her hand, purse her lips, and turn her head to the side) don’t buy a doll just to sit on a shelf on my account. If you have the money for a doll, you should spend it on a child.” 

I’d still like to have the Ruthie doll, but this day was about Abby, so instead we picked out a My American Girl doll that looked just like her. Abby named her doll Ava.


Abby loves Ava. There is something very special to a little girl about having a doll that looks like her.

We also checked out a few more stores in Tyson’s corner and took Abby to the play area.

On the way home we asked Abby what her favorite part was and she said, “I had a great day. I don’t know my favorite part!”

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Kitchen Inspiration

April 26, 2012 By: Stephanie1 Comment

Even though it will still be a little while before we break ground on the house, I’ve been thinking a lot about the design. Especially the kitchen and the bathrooms. Mostly the kitchen.  I feel like I need to have the the kitchen in my head before I can make any other decisions because of the way the house is designed.

Remember our design?

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The kitchen is right smack in the middle of the house and open to everything which will be nice, I think. (We had an open floor plan in our last house and I didn’t love it so much, but it does make sense when you have kids. I might be the one woman in the universe who actually prefers a separated kitchen, but that’s what we have now and it is hard to keep an eye on my children from in there.) 
Eddie and I both agree (for once) that we really like the craftsman, shaker style cabinetry.
But I am in love with painted cabinets and he hates them…a lot. It seems to be a pretty common opinion among men, and I do understand that it stings a bit to spend thousands of dollars on something brand new and made of solid wood and then paint and distress it to make it feel old.  
Eddie wants our kitchen to look like this, only without the curtains. 
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or this

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While the cabinets themselves are lovely, I find that much wood to be really dark, kind of depressing to live in, and a little bit dated. They remind me of the kitchen on Home Improvement. I have no desire whatsoever to spend extended periods of time in either one of those kitchens. (no offense if they are to your taste)
My dream kitchen would look like this
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but a) we probably can’t afford that and b) Eddie lives in our house too, so it’s kind of important that he likes it. 
I’m leaning toward doing two-tone cabinets, which is really trendy right now but I’m nervous because it’s really trendy right now. I don’t want trendy. This is our forever house. This will be our kitchen for 30 or 40 years or more, we hope. I don’t want to make a decision I’ll regret that would cost us an entire year’s salary to redo.
I want the kitchen to be classic, Craftsman, light, have a lot of storage, feel comfortable so we can live in it with three little kids without worrying about messing it up, and have a mix of materials. The last one I’m not set on just yet. Is it just a trend? Will I still love it in ten years? Can we find a compromise we both like? 
Here are a few examples of the two-tone trend

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The first one is my favorite and probably the most realistic for our budget. I want a modern cozy but fancy farmhouse feel. I feel like you can only achieve the look I want with painted cabinets like these:
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I want it to be comfortable, pretty, and a place I actually enjoy spending several hours in every day.I cook a lot, and I do a decent amount of canning, and we will probably spend many a breakfast and lunch sitting at that raised counter and staring into the kitchen. I want to love it, not feel like it belongs in a 90’s sitcom portraying the suburban lifestyle. 
Speaking of cheesy 90’s sitcoms, do you think if I record a tape of myself saying “we need painted cabinets” over and over and play it while Eddie’s sleeping he will wake up with a sudden desire to go along with my plan? It worked on Saved By the Bell.
What do you think of the two tone trend? Are you a fan of painted cabinets or do you prefer the natural wood?

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Building a Dream: New Plan

April 24, 2012 By: Stephaniecomment

We are steadily making progress on the house. Sort of. There’s a lot of hurry up and wait right now.

All of the paperwork is filed with the bank and our sewer plans and application have been submitted and paid for.  Now we just need to be under contract with a builder so we can finalize a construction loan and apply for building permits. Then we’ll wait another few months for the permits to clear.

Changing Plans in Our Home Build

We had fallen in love with a floor plan that we worked with a modular home company to design, but then we fell out of love with that company. They’ve spent about two and a half months wasting our time now and still haven’t gotten back to us with a final cost, although their initial estimates were almost $30,000 over what we wanted to spend and that didn’t even include a garage. We’re not officially saying we’re going to cut ties with them just yet, but we are definitely leaning very hard in that direction. They have been moved to Plan B, anyway.

We met with a private home builder, a man who goes to our church. He has been wonderful about communicating with us and doing what he says he will do within the time frame he gives us. He also comes very highly recommended by people we know and trust. We are waiting for his final costs to come back to us this week, but we are almost positive that it will be significantly lower than the modular company and include the garage. Plus we get a much more comfortable feeling dealing with him.

When we showed him the floor plan we loved, he said there was an architect who sells plans online he had worked with before and he was almost positive that the architect had a very similar floor plan.

We found it. This is the Michaelson from architect Donald Gardner. At the moment, this is our Plan A.

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And we love it even more than the first one because there is an additional half bath for guests, the girls can each have their own closet, the kitchen will have a lot more storage, and there is another entrance from the back yard that goes straight to the bathroom, which is important because we plan to add a pool in the back yard within the next few years. Not to mention it has the garage, which has become the biggest pain so far. We want to enlarge the girls’ bedroom (the one to the left of the porch) and the master closet, but other than that it was almost exactly what we wanted.

The cons are that I will lose a little bit of pantry space and I’m not super thrilled about having a laundry closet instead of a whole utility room, but those are both things I can live with.

Also, it will take longer to build than a modular home would, but I’ve talked to the school and they said they will allow Nicholas to start kindergarten in the fall because we already own the land. Since he won’t need to switch schools in the middle of the year, time isn’t as much of an issue as we thought it might be.

We are thinking we will probably break ground in July and hope to be in by February or March, but these things always take longer than you think they will. In any event, we should be moved in by this time next year. I hope.

Here’s my original post about choosing our lot and floor plan. Sigh, she was a beauty. 

Choosing the Lot and Floor Plan

 

 

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Abby is Three

April 21, 2012 By: Stephaniecomment

 Dear Abigail,

You are three today. You are such a joy to our family! You are fun, and smart, and sassy and undeniably beautiful. Compassionate and emotional with a vivid imagination. Bossy but compliant (usually). You know, and have always known, your own mind and you cannot be swayed or distracted once you have made a decision.

You let your emotions drive you and you seem already to be our family artist.

You are painfully shy around strangers, just like I was, but in your comfort zone you are a performer. Practicing facial expressions in the mirror, making up songs, and dancing and singing in front of cameras, mirrors, dolls, or anyone you know well enough to allow to listen.

You love babies and animals and you stand up and fight for anyone and anything you feel is being treated unfairly. Even if it is me that you are fighting against, I will always try to encourage that in you.

You are a very pretty girl. So pretty that sometimes it makes me nervous. It is very easy for people to see your beautiful face and not bother to get to know your personality. Your heart breaks easily, three or four times a day, and it breaks the hardest when you feel as though you are not being heard. Part of being a middle child, I suppose.

You are gifted. So, so very smart. Consistently a year or more ahead of an average child of your age, at least according to the charts and milestones used to measure where you “should” be. Another reason I will never allow you to get by on your looks.

You are also very self-aware. More so than any child I’ve seen at your age. You know how and when to use your looks, your facial expressions, your body language. Who will respond to baby talk and who will be impressed when you pull out the big guns, your “yes ma’am’s and thank you sir’s” You can read a situation and know when is a good time to test your boundaries and when you need to be mature beyond your years.

You are here with me every day and you know the challenges your brother and I face together better than anyone. You are there to remind him when to calm down (despite being the one to push his buttons in the first place) and you are there with kisses and “I love you, mommy’s” when his aggression turns on me.

And there are some times (many times) that you spontaneously burst into tears. 

Whether it is about a doll you are pretending to mother, or your real baby sister, or a friend hurt on the playground, or even when you think it’s me being too hard on your brother,  you feel deeply, with your whole soul.

And I hope you never change.

Love,
Mommy

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School Daze: Whether or Not to Drug My Kid

April 19, 2012 By: Stephanie2 Comments

I know a lot of you read this blog to follow along with Nicholas’ story and sometimes I need to write stuff down just so I can keep it straight myself. 

He has made an amazing amount of progress this year. He is (mostly) potty trained and will be graduating out of his play therapy next month! He is doing much better managing his anger with everyone but me (although that is improving) and seems to be genuinely sorry after an outburst.

It seems school will be our next challenge.

Behavior Modification Drugs

Ahh, kindergarten. Why must you expect so much out of five-year-olds these days?

Academically, Nick is not doing well. At all. He does make a decent effort, but he struggles with letter recognition, number recognition, writing, pretty much every pre-kindergarten skill. He is improving, but he is still at the bottom of his class. His biggest struggles are with attention and motivation.

He was tested for kindergarten last week and the results were low. More than three standard deviations below the mean. (That’s an IQ level below mental retardation in the non-verbal category, in case you are interested) You can spend three seconds with him and know those results aren’t accurate, but they couldn’t get him to focus enough to try to do well. There’s a huge gap between performance and ability and it’s earning him all kinds of labels to qualify for special services, but with a score that low now I’m concerned that we’ll need to fight to keep him in the general classroom.

I’ve talked with his teachers about holding him back, but because he needs so much structure and he receives so many services, they feel he would do better in the public school 5 days a week than in his current private school 3 days a week. Not to mention that public schools are free and private schools cost money. I was happy to hear that because I was hoping to send him on to kindergarten anyway.

Homeschooling is not an option for us because his attachment issues with me make me the worst possible choice to be his teacher.

We’ve decided to send him to kindergarten and if he needs to repeat it next year, then fine.

He’s been working with an occupational therapist weekly to improve his fine motor skills and help him learn to write. 

We do what we can at home. We have all the fancy dry erase boards, LeapFrog letter recognition toys, flashcards, we read everything and anything. I bought him Lego books to try to pique his interest. We play the SuperWhy letter games on the PBS kids website. I can go on, and on, and on…He just isn’t interested and when he’s not interested in holding his attention for more than two seconds just won’t happen. Period.

We’ve tried the gluten-free diet, no red dye, Omega 3 (that kind of did help), growing an organic garden…diet doesn’t seem to make much of a difference for him.

He’s gotten into golf, which is good for practicing patience. I’ve been in touch with an instructor about getting him lessons.

I’m also looking into music lessons for the same reasons.

I always said I’d never drug my child (put him on Ritalin, etc) unless his hyperactivity was severely affecting his academic performance. It is. I’m still not sure I want to do it, but we’re kind of running out of options.

I’m also worried about his hyperactiveness and lack of thinking through is going to start getting him ridiculed by his peers.

Apparently, he went into the kids’ choir room on Sunday and announced to everyone that his “hiney was very red and we needed to put lotion on it because there were a lot of germs down there.” Everyone finds it hysterical now when he blurts out with that stuff, but it won’t be so funny in another year or two. He’s going to be the weird kid.

I’ll be talking to the pediatrician next week.

I guess we could always try it and take him off right away if we’re not happy with the results.

I still think ADHD is way over-diagnosed and most of the time it’s just little boys being little boys, but if ever there was a child who had it, Nick is it.

I always tell Eddie he’s going to grow up to be just like Ty Pennington, he’s so exuberant, but he is just off the wall with crazy energy and it affects the way he is performing in school and the way he relates to people.

Have you ever put your kids on behavior modification medicine? What did you think of the results?

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What to Know About Raising Your Own Chickens

April 12, 2012 By: Stephanie4 Comments

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How to Raise Your Own Chickens
(Photo credit: All photos taken with permission directly from Tab’s Facebook page)

I’m so excited to introduce you to one of my dear real-life friends, Tabatha.


You may remember her from last fall when I posted about our cherry picking adventure.

Tab & I went to high school together. We met my freshman year, her sophomore year when we played on the jv volleyball team. We’ve been friends for literally half of our lives. We both married our high school sweethearts, so the four of us have a bit of history together, plus Tab & I wound up at the same college. Now we are both married mamas with a passion for living off the land, except she’s much better at it than I am.

Tab & her husband Jeff (who I have also known since high school) have the most adorable little boy, Kooper. I mean, seriously.


They live on a farm in Maryland and raise chickens and bees.

I’m not a huge bee person, but I’m super jealous of the chickens!

backyard chickens
You might not know this about me, but I’ve been wanting chickens in the worst way. Like a little kid asking for a puppy. Please, I promise I’ll clean up all the poop. Please? Pretty please? Unfortunately, I keep getting vetoed. For now, I must live vicariously through our friends. I asked Tab & Jeff to do a Q & A for us in (not so secret) hopes that some of their answers might just convince Eddie that we soooo need chickens too.

Below is my interview with my favorite chicken farmers. 🙂

Do you have a rooster? Why or why not? Yes, but he’s mean. You only need a rooster if you plan to hatch chicks from fertile eggs. Roosters can also get spurs on the back of their legs that can harm children. An advantage is that they crow to warn about predators and they keep the hens from fighting amongst themselves.

Do you recommend hatching eggs so that children can see the entire life cycle of the chicken? If you go to a hatchery & order chicks you can get a straight run, which is a mix of chicks (about 50% male/female) about 2-3 days old. You can also order females only. For first timers, it is probably best to get baby chicks rather than try to hatch eggs because you’ll have a better success rate. We get ours from Meyer Hatchery. We’ve had 2 batches so far and both seemed to do well.

How many chickens do you keep? What breed do you prefer? We started with 11. We lost 2 to a predator and one died from an impacted crop. We currently have 1 rooster, 6 egg laying hens, and eight chicks. We prefer the heritage breeds. They are prettier and they lay for many more years, plus they are big enough to get meat from if that’s the route you want to take. They are also good for genetic diversity. They are kind of like potato chips, once you start you want to keep getting more. Our older ones are Plymouth Bar Rock, the chicks are Americanas or “Easter eggers” who will lay green eggs.

Where do you keep your chickens? An old shed converted to a coop with a fenced-in area around it. We use the deep litter method (described below) The fence is 6 feet high, but I had to put a roof on it because they were flying over it.

How often do you need to clean your coop? And how do you clean it? Do the chickens need baths? If I was doing it over, I would redeisgn the coop. Right now we do the deep litter method which is pine shavings on the floor of an old shed, every few weeks you add more shavings, then about every 6 months you clean the whole thing out. The other method is to put something under where the chickens sleep at night, that tends to be where they poop. Every few days, squirt it off with a hose. They don’t need baths, but when they are chicks you have to clean their butts with olive oil on a q-tip because they get backed up from the stress of moving and being shipped. The hens make a dust bath area for themselves which helps them git rid of mites.

How many eggs do you collect? Pretty much 1 per day per chicken, but it depends on the variety of chicken & the time of year. Ideally, they need 14 hours of sunlight to lay a maximum amount of eggs. Right now we get about 5 eggs a day.

How much room do they need? About 3 square feet of interior space and 5 of exterior space per bird.

How do you store the eggs & how long do they keep? A good reference is Mother Earth News. They’ve done studies about free range eggs. A damp, cool place like a basement, away from bright light and they can keep for up to two months. Just don’t wash off the protective coating. We usually take a pencil and write the date on the egg and use them within two weeks.

Have you ever had any complaints from neighbors? No, but the neighbor about a mile up the street has heard the rooster crow that far away. Actually, the neighbors say they like to hear the rooster, believe it or not.

Did you need to get a license or permission from a zoning board? The state asked us to register them on a website in case there was ever an outbreak of avian flu or something, but we didn’t need permission from the zoning board. (Check with your own area for ordinances)

What do you feed them? A 50 lb bag purchased for about $17 last us about a month. We get Purina (not the dog food company) from Tractor Supply Company, but sometimes local places are cheaper. The hens & rooster get a different feed than the chicks. They also need dirt & grit. They pick up little rocks to help them grind up food.

Do you need to get a chicken sitter if you go away overnight? They have a feeder that holds about 25 lb of feed and a 5-gallon water holder. They could easily stay inside for 24 hours. Some breeds do better in confinement than others.

How will I know if an egg is fertilized or not if I do have a rooster? Since we have the rooster, we have to assume all the eggs are fertilized. One rooster can keep about 10 hens. The fertilized eggs don’t taste any different. If the hens get broody and start sitting on the eggs, then we wouldn’t collect and eat those eggs. It takes 21 days of incubation for a fertilized egg to hatch into a chick. We are collecting them the first day, so they don’t grow.

How can they send chicks through the mail? New chicks don’t need any food or water for 3 days, because they have a yolk sack attached to them which gives them the nutrients they need.

Do you do anything special for the chickens in the winter? Look for breeds that are cold hearty. Ours weren’t affected at all by the winter. They were outside in the snow and they were fine.

Any other advice you’d have for first-time chicken owners? If I knew better I’d get a chicken tractor instead of a stationary coop. It’s the housing with the fenced in run, but it’s on wheels and you move it around your yard every couple of days. They get fresh grass and you hardly ever have to clean up after them. A good website for reference is backyardchickens.com

You should always have at least 3 chickens because they like the company. If one dies you want to have at least 1 more around.

If space is an issue, you can get bannie (bantam) chickens that are smaller full grown birds.

If you want to raise meat birds but don’t want to kill them yourself there are places that will process them for you for an average about $1.50 per bird.

(Jeff, who is really wanting to start raising meat birds) From the research I’ve done I think we could grow them for $1.10-$1.20 per pound, the equivalent organic free range chicken at Costco is $2.50 per pound.

If you have any other questions for Tab & Jeff please leave them in the comments. 

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Fun Interview with Nick & Abby

April 11, 2012 By: Stephanie2 Comments


I saw this interview on Centsational Girl this morning and I thought it was such a cool idea, I decided to interview Nick and Abby over lunch.

Some of their answers were really cute, especially Nick’s (age 5) Abby’s (age 3 in just 10 more days!) seemed to be pretty random, I’m not sure she really understood everything I was asking her.

What’s your favorite color?
N: Blue
A: Purple

What makes you happy?
N:juice boxes, food, and my Lego space shuttle
A: Easter baskets

What makes you sad?
N: sad and angry when [the pieces for] my space shuttle won’t fit
A: bags (I have no idea what she meant by that)

What makes Mommy happy?
N: kites
A: colors

What makes Mommy angry?
N: When daddy says bad things
A: snow

What makes daddy happy?
N: playing the airshow game & Top Gun
A: Easter bunnies

What makes daddy angry?
N: hitting
A: Jelly beans because he’s sick, but that’s alright

How do you know Mommy loves you?
N: kisses
A: gives me chicken nuggets

How do you know daddy loves you?
N:He does what I want to do & plays the air show game
A:gives me cereal

What do you pray about?
N: God and going to high school with Morgan
A:toys and going to Subway (she had asked to go to Subway for lunch, but I told her no)

What’s your favorite food?
N: jelly beans
A: jelly beans
(I should have known better than to ask while they were eating jelly beans)

What made you the most happy in your whole life?
N: a Bingo game (maybe they did this at school?)
A: orange trees (???)

What are you the most scared of?
N: Monsters, ghosts, snakes, and skeletons
A: just snakes & scary ghosts

Who is your best friend?
N: My space shuttle and my toys
A: Emma, Morgan, Miles, Austin, and Ms. Joy & Ms. Kim (all from preschool, except our babysitter, Morgan)

What is your favorite movie?
N: Top Gun and the Airshow Game (please note, he has never actually seen Top Gun, only the bonus feature on the DVD where they show how they filmed with the planes. The air show game is a play station, or maybe x-box, game he plays with Eddie sometimes)
A: The Lion King

This will be a fun tradition to continue.

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Spring Is Here

April 9, 2012 By: Stephaniecomment

(at least one of us gets to relax)

Hope you all had a great Easter Holiday! Ours was great but went by fast!

Eddie’s mom was here with me last week and it was so nice to have the help. We are caught up on laundry and dishes for the first time since….um, maybe ever.


We dyed eggs, I got to run a few errands, and we had a lot of fun. Now we’re back to the daily grind (Come back, Nana!) but my sister will be taking my older kids to see the Lorax movie this afternoon so I’m hoping to get some more stuff accomplished.

We just seem to get so busy this time of year. We spent all day Saturday cutting our grass at the new land and planting some baby trees from the Arbor Day Foundation, 2.4 acres sure takes a while to mow! Especially when everyone, including mommy, insists on having a turn on the new tractor.

We spend Easter doing a lot of running around. We were disappointed that we couldn’t make it to the Easter service at our church because we were traveling to see family, but we did an egg hunt with our Resurrection eggs and went over the story a few times. The kids were really into those eggs this year!

Then they got to have 2 more egg hunts later in the day. We also finally took a picture of the five of us together.

We stopped by my dad’s house, my mom’s house, and spent time with Eddie’s family at his Uncle’s. The weather was perfect and I hope the kids made some nice memories. I loved having the girls in matching dresses for the first time.

I might not be blogging much, but I hope I’ll remember to track our progress. We are in the permitting and financing stage of building the new house.

I’m back to work part-time.

I have a lot to do to prepare for tomorrow’s end of the year brunch for our Mom N Me group.

Nicholas is having all kinds of tests for his kindergarten placement this week and will be graduating out of play therapy in May. (Yay for his progress and our checkbook!)

The kids seem to be going on 8 million field trips for school.

My friend Lauren & I will be surprising Abby with a trip to the American Girl Store and possibly a Peter Rabbit Tea Party at the Ritz-Carton for her birthday! (Nicholas got to play a real round of golf with Daddy for his birthday)


We will also be planting our veggie garden this month.

Is spring a busy time for your family?

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