There has been a lot of talk on the news about how a “lack of conversation” is part of the problem, but I hadn’t seen very many people sitting down and really trying to have the types of conversations that people say are missing. Charmia and I have many things in common. We went to school together, we are the same age, we had a similar upbringing, and we are both moms now. But we also recognize that we have some differences, and we wanted to sit down and talk about those differences for a while in the hopes that change might be able to start with us. I think the story about the birthday party at the pool and how our experiences of that were so different really highlights the need for more progress.